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Jasonzilla Jasonzilla
New User | Posts: 15 | Joined: 03/10
Posted: 03/07/10
06:56 AM

I've been to CSS levels 1 and 2, and was wondering if anyone else has attended CSS and any other schools. Is what they teach similar/same? Are their teaching styles similar? I'm planning on level 3 and 4, and also really want to try another one like Schwantz, Barber, or Pridmore. I wanted to know if there are any noticeable differences, especially in what they teach.  
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kento1 kento1
Administrator | Posts: 915 | Joined: 09/07
Posted: 03/07/10
10:11 AM

The CSS school curriculum is much more rigid than most of the other schools (hence the reason for the different levels). The basic fundamentals between most of the schools are the same, it's in the details where they're different.  

 
xbacksideslider xbacksideslider
User | Posts: 163 | Joined: 08/09
Posted: 03/08/10
11:48 AM

I can't speak to your CSS question since I have not been to one but I did do a Two Day with Schwantz at Barber and THAT was an experience of a life time, at least for me.  The Barber Museum by itself was worth the trip.  Then 2 days of instruction from a world champion and his staff of champions, personal track time with a world champion - many many laps, both days, draggin me along, showing me, de-briefing me, faster and faster and faster!  Just great.

I am an acquaintance of Keith Code and I have great respect for the pioneering, the trail breaking (pun intended), that he has done.  My copy of Twist of the Wrist I bought directly from Keith when he first published it, way back long long ago.

So, I do feel remiss that I have never attended any of his schools.  Back when, I couldn't afford it.  Later, when I could, I didn't have the time.  Now, that I can afford it and I have the time, the CSS terminology that the curriculum requires students to learn and adopt puts me off.  I feel like I have to go to school before I can go to school.    

Of course, one cannot communicate without an agreed lexicon.  That is Code's point and he saw the need to coin terms and to develop short hand terms to consolidate and compress and describe sets of ideas about vehicle dynamics and rider thought processes and so on.  I agree.  I get it.  My pause arises from the fact that some of the language of CSS, to me, is unnecessarily peculiar to CSS.  There are conventional terms and definitions that work and I don't see the need to abandon them in order to conscientiously attend CSS.  

 
Jasonzilla Jasonzilla
New User | Posts: 15 | Joined: 03/10
Posted: 03/08/10
05:44 PM

I think even the new riders were picking up what he was putting down. There were people who hadn't read the books who were getting what he was teaching. My thing is that some of it was probably out of the order I would like it to be, but it all worked out in the end.

There is some lingo, but it's used primarily to teach, and get everyone on the same page. It's very interesting you would put it the way you did. I thought what he taught was better with a name, because if someone was describing what they were doing, you could correct it by narrow it down to the drill we had been taught and explaining it.

What I did like was Keith's enthusiasm for teaching. Who knows how many times he'd been through the information, but he seemed excited about going through it with us. Cobie and the coaches were all great guys.

I'm wanting to do the Schwantz school, but the one weekend I have off in the near future has no class date. That, and the Yamaha school in Utah. The Pridmore school is pretty close, so I may attend that if I get the time.  
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