1000 talk

Hey guys im new to the sport rider site, just wanted to get some opinions.  I have been riding for the past 5 years. First bike R6, 2005 gsxr750, 2006 gsxr600.  I Recently sold the 600 and am looking at new bikes. I dont spend all my time in the mountain but do enjoy it often.  I would rate myself as a novice rider, no expert  but not a beginner for sure. I am looking at the 2009 gsxr 1000, I have rode a thousand before around town and on the highway but no time in mountain.  I was wondering how sensitive is a 1000 in a curve.  I have had a lot of people try to steer me away from it and just stick with 600 or 750.  They made it seem like if I get on the throttle just a lil bit:there goes the bike (lost traction due to wheel spin from power). Now I know a 1000 is no 600 and you cant just reem it out in a turn, with that in my please give me some insight.

Sorry guys strictly a gsxr man! I know honda and yamaha and others make good bikes just not for me  

Dear Sir

I may be an irresponsible,irrepressible sort but.. I would..get the 1000. They are for mere mortals to ride..as well as others..(I did read somewhere that someone might stall a large powerful bike 15 times at the lights.. Either they have no co-ordination skills or should return said bike immediately to shop).

They are not designed to be impossible to ride..especially new models..for consumption of..the general motorcycling public..
Compared to the underbreaked, underframed, tankslappers of the past(Which were quite frankly dangerous as hell..yet..everyone wanted one all the same).They are beyond compare.. That's probably why no-one ever thought of stunting much on the bloody things..they were to busy trying to stay upright.

You can always moderate your use of the throttle..(the twisty bar grip on the right(in case any non-bikers read this).

I'm sure there may be some corners even on a 600 or 750 where you might think to yourself that fully opening the throttle at maximum lean may test the laws of physics...so.. be a little less liberal with the throttle.

As my father said "look where you want to go(round corner)..and you and the bike will follow".. he was assuming I would have some innate sense of self preservation and slow for said corners. But.. that's a different story. Two stroke triples..ahh
Plus,I assume they've got the clever switchy thing still..apart from the other great invention..the throttle..that is.

Though maybe the 750 is better..

Your humble servant in motorcycling..  

jumpman2345:
I was wondering how sensitive is a 1000 in a curve.  I have had a lot of people try to steer me away from it and just stick with 600 or 750.  They made it seem like if I get on the throttle just a lil bit:there goes the bike (lost traction due to wheel spin from power). Now I know a 1000 is no 600 and you cant just reem it out in a turn, with that in my please give me some insight.


The GSX-R1000 isn't going to spin out from under you in a corner; in the vast majority of situations the tire traction will be too good for that (at maximum lean, any real sportbike is going to spin out from under you if you grab too much throttle). That said, throttle control on a 1000 is critical in corners, and the slightest throttle movement will have a big effect on its cornering attitude.

Where novice riders usually have problems is in gauging their speed entering the corner, not while they're already in the corner and beginning their drive out; corner entry is where 99% of the mistakes/crashes I've seen with novice riders occur. And that's why literally every novice crash on a 1000 I've seen has been on corner entry; they love using that power, but then it gets them into trouble because they're unable to gauge their speed entering the corner, and by the time they realize that they're going too quickly, it's too late.

It's entirely up to you, obviously, but if you want to continue learning and improving your riding skills, I'd recommend sticking with the 600 or 750. At this stage in your learning curve, all a 1000 will do is teach you to twist the throttle when you've got the bike straight up and down, then use up all your concentration braking for the corner, resulting in you tip-toeing through it. You won't learn about smooth brake/throttle transition, or turn-in points, or using the bike's powerband to your advantage, etc.

By the way, the Suzuki Drive Mode Selector isn't a switch that magically transforms a GSX-R from a 600, 750, or 1000. Only in C mode is the power neutered; in B mode, only the first 40% of throttle movement has power pulled back, the rest of the throttle movement it's at 100% power. And it's folly to think that a novice rider will "keep it in C mode" until they're "ready". Every time you start the bike, the drive mode automatically defaults to full power A mode, and you have to sit there and scroll through the modes to choose the others; highly doubtful that a novice rider will want to take the time to do that before every ride.  

jumpman2345:
Hey guys im new to the sport rider site, just wanted to get some opinions.  I have been riding for the past 5 years. First bike R6, 2005 gsxr750, 2006 gsxr600.  I Recently sold the 600 and am looking at new bikes. I dont spend all my time in the mountain but do enjoy it often.  I would rate myself as a novice rider, no expert  but not a beginner for sure. I am looking at the 2009 gsxr 1000, I have rode a thousand before around town and on the highway but no time in mountain.  I was wondering how sensitive is a 1000 in a curve.  I have had a lot of people try to steer me away from it and just stick with 600 or 750.  They made it seem like if I get on the throttle just a lil bit:there goes the bike (lost traction due to wheel spin from power). Now I know a 1000 is no 600 and you cant just reem it out in a turn, with that in my please give me some insight.

Sorry guys strictly a gsxr man! I know honda and yamaha and others make good bikes just not for me

Hello again Jumpman..

I can only assume with a name like that.. you probably leap from aircraft that are still serviceable...with nothing but a large bed sheet to save your skin.. bit of free fall..
So maybe your friends know about your need to reach terminal velocity..

If you've not read it.. A Twist of the Wrist - Keith Code... it does on the face of it over simplify.. with the diagrams etc... but, it is genius to the un-enlightened.
Put Keith Code in your search engine..
I have no links with his *** but they do excellent track based courses.. mostly in the USA.. money well spent.. The only downer for you is that the course bikes are Honda's (last I heard)..but no matter..

Yours  

eurotour:

Put Keith Code in your search engine..
I have no links with his *** but they do excellent track based courses.. mostly in the USA.. money well spent.. The only downer for you is that the course bikes are Honda's (last I heard)..but no matter..



Keith Code's California Superbike School has used Kawasakis exclusively since its inception.