1st bike and I want to buy a R1 or GSXR1000 and need advise

listen, i just purchased my first bike about a month and a half ago. prior to that the only thing i've ridden was a scooter or bicycle. when i explained this to the salesman he advised me that though it was my choice and my money, he recommends the 750(i was looking at suzuki models)because of the balance of power and handling and trust me this bike is plenty fast.on a 1000 the front end tends to left up apon quick acceleration.trust me, start small you won't be disappointed.  

First time rider on a 600 supersport and above as their first bike = SQUID.  TC is the type of person we like to make fun of.  

Listen, this is simple. There are throttles on every bike. Buy the one you want, respect every aspect of it, wear your helmet nd don't be stupid. I watched 2 of my best friends, one a cop, buy 1000cc bikes to keep up with me. As a good friend I never pushed them to do anything they did not feel comfortable doing. Remember things happen quicker at higher speeds. Until you are ready to deal with the situations, USE YOUR BRAIN. Being scared (respectful)of a bike like this is not a puss thing, Its just smart. ( buy a Honda CBR1000rr)  

craigschaeffer
said it best get wat you want!
Be scared of it and respect it even more
know that there are two types of ryders
those who have been down and those who are going down.
take heed to the warnings of all these other cats on here that are tryin to say start small it's safer and smarter. they are just looking out for your well being.
now MY answer to your question is get what you want.
Personally I would do my research 1st and pick a bike most suited for what I wanted it for & to my liking. My brand is Kawasaki. ZX10 is a monster on the strip and great in the Twisties and the Street so is the GSXR Grand. Hondas & Yamahas belong in the twisties or on the streets the trueth is all these bikes are great and all are built to race on a track not a drag strip. That I live my life a quarter mile at a time Bull is so plaid out. what ever you get wear the proper Gear at all times. I've been down with it and without it
it hurt a lot less with proper gear and take the MSF Begainers Coarse  

I don't recommend starting out with a 1000. These bikes have an unbelievable amount of tq and hp. Start out with a 600, they shouldn't really even be considered beginner bikes. Buy a 600, ride it for a while, take care of it, then you can sell it and make a good profit and then upgrade. If you must start out with a 1000, a GSXR would be the best since it comes with a feature to contol the power output for different riding styles.  

What's up crash972?  How and why do you think your sons learning curve slowed at the 1000?  

Boy, some can, some can't. It ain't the bike, it's the rider.

My educated guess (based on 39 years riding experience and 61 years life experience) is that someone boasting about their 700 HP car and lack of fear (be afraid, be very afraid and very, very respectful of these machines) does not have the maturity, restraint and common sense to do what you want to do.

But that's just me!

A 600cc sportbike has enough umph to croak you if you haven't got it. A 1000 is just more to handle. And you haven't got it until you get it; got it?

Get a 125 Eliminator or some such, take the course(s) and get an  understanding of what it's all about. Particularly the stuff you can't control because there's lots of that!  And it comes at you from the most amazing of places. Keep yourself alive for a while. Then, once you've done that, there'll be plenty of time to do what you want to do. And you may even live to tell about it!  

I appologise to the readers for asking a question out of context of the original thread but only asked Crash972 that question to become more aware of (sometimes) inevitable challanges riders experience.  Experience is the best teacher and smart people learn from othere peoples experiences/mistakes -  

I know that your question about which bike to get first has been addressed in the many of the eperienced rider's replys.  If you would appreciate my advise; I would suggest 6-750-thou or 6-thou.  Depending on your personallity, size and love of the sport. You might fall in love with a 6 or change bike types when its all said and done.  I have to lol because if we were in Eurp this thread might not exist.  

So I've been riding dirt bikes for more than ten years and would occasionally ride my father's Buell since I was 15 (can't believe they let me do that), and I just recently bought a CBR600RR after years of yearning for one.  I know my limits and and always looking for ways to improve my riding, looking into the California Superbike School programs, and have a great deal of respect for my bike.  A 600 is for sure in no way a joke.  These bikes are built for speed and it shows.  Not having any sort of riding experience is a recipe for disaster.  My advice is get experience on any sort of motorcycle so you'll naturally and instantly react to things and give yourself a chance.  Things happen fast, and in many cases they're beyond your control such as someone turning on top of you without looking on the freeway.  If you have to take a second to think about where controls are, let alone dealing with as the astronomical amount of power these bikes have you're going to end up as a statistic and be responsible for driving up our insurance.  

Like everyone said, you're going to do what you want despite what others tell you.  At least wear a helmet in whatever you do.  

I agree with everyone that has given their suggestions/opinions. Do consider their advice- you will have a much better riding experience by making those smart decisions. You can ride the faster bikes when you're REALLY ready and know the proper handling of your ride, techniques, etc. The beginner bikes should give you a lot of practice and help before you take that step towards the gsx-r1000, etc.

good luck & be safe!  

I own a 2007 GSX-R1000 and commute with it every day over Ortega Highway. It is a great bike but I don't think it is what you are looking for. You stated that you want to take it to the dragstrip once you are comfortable on it. This is a road course/canyon carving bike not a drag bike. If you want to go fast in a straight line like others suggested get a Busa or ZX14. That said, all the others are right you are going to drop the thing while learning. Hopefully just a drop and not a crash. The others are right there are 2 types of riders; Those who have crashed and those who have not crashed YET. I have crashed 4 times and dropped my bike about 3 times. Neither feel very good. Get a used bike (what ever size you want) and naked is best for learning. Also, spend the money on good gear and wear all of it...helmet, gloves, jacket pants and boots.
Your car didn't come stock with 700 hp, you had to build it to that level. You can do the same with a bike!  

Put me in your will. Just kidding. Having a car that goes 10 seconds and a bike that goes 10 seconds is apples and oranges, and thats just in a straight line. Taking a corner at highway speeds for the first time on a bike is a white knuckle affair. Now add in the factor that you have 165hp on tap and you dont know what to do with it yet... Thats just 70mph. Do your self a favor go with something smaller and nimbler. I would think in the long run it will help you become a better rider and allow you the time to improve. The big 4 will be making better and faster liter bikes as the years go on... anyway I think Yamaha has nailed the R6.  

look, you CANNOT handle a Busa. And you cannot even handle a 600SS without having at least some excellent guidance through instruction, coupled with some very responsible mentality in approaching the entire matter.  

But since you have not written back about this all, maybe this post is coming too late in any event.  

Dude I was in the same boat as far as the car bike thing. My first was the '01 honda 929rr and I loved that bike, although most 600's now days have as much if not more HP, but I thought it was going to be to much also but I grew acustom to it and quickly found my limits and slowly started to push them. I just bought the new R1 and I love it and feel right at home on it now! I never went down on my first or second bike "knock knock". I just think if you are willing to not push to hard or to far then skipping the 6's and going to the liter's is the way to go, so you don't have to worry about upgrading later on!  

Plus if you're ever going to ride double the 6's aren't for you! I'm only 6'1" at 180 and my wife is 5'3" at 110 and the 6's just couldn't do it unless you burned the clutch or the fuel!