600 -vs- 1000

Obviously the 1000 is going to be faster and more powerful. But is it worth the extra money? And how much better is a 1000 than a 600 if any at all? How do they compare on acceleration and top speed? Thanx.  

Anyone? I'm looking to buy my first bike and I'd rather go ahead and get used to the highend sportbikes. Any info is appreciated.  

Wow.  1st bike....  If your only choices are a 600 vs 1000, get the 600.  Or better yet an SV650S or the new Ninja 650.  Save the 1000 until you get a few years experience of riding on the streets under your belt.

Top speed shouldn't be a priority in buying a bike assuming you live some place with speed limits.  160 mph on a 600 will get you in the same amount of trouble as 180+ mph on a 1000 even though the 1000 will get there quicker.

Don't forget to get a good helmet, gloves, and jacket.  And you might want to check with your insurance company before buying.

Your money.  Your choice.  But I can't recommend a 1000cc sport bike as a first bike.  I can't recommend a 600 either, but...  If you get a 600, I think you'll be surprised at how quick/fast they are.  They'll trounce 400+ hp cars....



Chris  

http://forums.sportrider.com/70/591801/new-riders/new-riders-please-read-this-updated-2-13-06/index.html

Read this too.



Chris  

thanx man. I know what you mean about first bike being one of these. But I have a lot of experiance riding other things like motocross bikes which also have tons of power. I just want to start out on something that I can ride for a long time. And I'll just take it easy for awhile.

*** I'm not a total newbie to street bikes either, I have many friends who have let me ride their bikes as well, but I have a great respect for these bikes, I've seen what they can do and I've seen the consequenses. I've even felt the consequenses a time or two. Which is why I've tuned my riding style to match a high performance machine. whether it be sportbike or motocross bike.  

I started with the all mighty R1... I had it a little over for 4 months. I totaled the bike. A lady made a left turn in front of me and I try to swerve, but lost control and hit a house and bounce to hit the next house. I was in second gear a little over 80mph

Now I ride a much smaller V-Twin SV650 and in my opinion it is much more fun bike to ride hard. It's defenitely not a crazy speed freak on crack like the R1. The little SV650 V-Twin engine has a lot of torque, it has pull power at low RPMs which is nice coming out of corners. It also has a smooth power band.

The inline-4's kill me on the straits since the SV650 tops out at about 135mph.

However, the SV has a really good chassis that allows sharp precise handeling. With some suspension modifications, and lowered gearing, I am able to keep up and pass guys on their 600s, 750s and some 1000s inline-4 in the twisties.

I think a lot of it is because I try to learn as much riding theory as possible, I observe my riding, and I practice riding tecniques + I may be a bit more agressive rider.

It is a nice feeling to pass another rider in a more powerfull and capable motorcycle. After all is not the motorcycle's power that counts. It is the rider's skills. (Just because you may have a faster bike does not mean you are now a better rider)

Only practice makes a better rider. And, remember... Baby steps go the distance...  Ride just a little over your confort zone.

Luis.

PS: Also remember the more power you have the better you must control that throttle... A bigger bike is harder to ride hard... What is the point of have a lot of power if you only use it 25% of the time... coast 50% of the time... and brake 25% of the time...  
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get the 600 first and then when youre ready for a 1000 sell it back to the dealer for the value of the bike and just go at it like that...  
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If you are new I wouldn't get a 1000cc sport bike. A 600 Honda CBR600 or even a naked bike would be good to learn on.
The SVS650 would be nice or even a Ducati 695 Monster is reasonable and a blast to ride.  

CBR 600 all the way.  Good starter bike if you have some dirt bike experience or four wheeler experience, the whole shifting thing is confusing for beginners.  Get a middle to late model CBR 600 that isn't fuel injected.  The front end stays down unless you want it up and it will rip about 160-165, which that is hauling ass on a 600 and you will feel it.  0-60 faster than 99% of cars out there.  

My first major street bike was a 1989 Yamaha YZF 750. But a CBR600 F4i RR, either would be a good street bike if you have dirtbike experience. If not then A Kawasaki 250 Ninja(although i personally wouldn't waste money on one) would be a good starter bike. The SV650s are a blast.  
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Hey bro I would highly suggest a 600 over a 1000 if I had too make a choice due to the capabilities of the new bikes. It's more than enough power and speed you will ever need. I agree with the guy who made the comment about it's the rider not so much of the bike. It takes allot of skill and practice to get it right and to be most of all consistent. Also you need to take your riding to the track where you can get some real time and really feel what constant speed really feels like, there is a great valley between speed on the streets/canyons vs the track.

Twissta

Here you will be able to hone your skills that will hopefully be transfered to the streets and once you have your taste on the track you will be very,very wise about your speed on the streets! hope this will further help you make a decision  
Twissta...Throttle Man

my first bike was 07 r1. the reason for that was i'm 6'3 210lbs. just wasnt comfertable on a 600. 3 months later p/u truck made a left infront of me i was doing 50mph & didnt have time to do anything. coma & 6 broken bones later i'm still layed up in bed. my thought is if you have self control & respect for what the bike can do get the bike your most comfertable on. 120mph on a 600cc is the same 120mph on a 1000cc. my next bike is the busa. know your skills limit. good luck.  

Theres nothing you can do about an old lady pulling out in front of you other then see it before it happens.If you have ridden twostroke by all means you are fine with throttle response. #1 rule dont by something you dont want. Buy something that scares the chit out of you and respect it. bottom line is you have your life in your own hands how much do you love yourself. Ride on your time. If you late and only have 3 mins to get somewhere take the car and be late. best new rider advice i think is when riding dont day dream have a clear head and constanly scan whats going on around you. dont be taken by surprise know it before it happens. I cant stand sitting at red light because i have no control and your just sitting there waiting to take on in the ass from some moron on a cell phone. More good advice would be to constantly move through traffic,dont ride in it but smoothly push through it. And there is no need to speed to do this. Stay away from everyone else on the road when possiable  

I dont even recommend a GSXR for a 1st bike. Start smaller & lighter, you butt will be glad you did. Most street riders are riding a bike that exceeds their abilities 95% of the time. Most 600's can put the hurt on a new rider & will. Its not if you crash, its when. The new bikes install a feel of confidence a month or so into riding them, then you start to feel cocky. Thats when it turns nasty & you get yourself into trouble. I have 20+ yrs riding experience on gsxr's. Yes 20+ I bought the first gsxr750 in 1986 & have upped every 2 years. I know what Im talking about.I ride a K6 gsxr1000 & honstly, you have no buisness on one as most other riders I see. Most cant use the power they have. Buy kool & your a fool<--respectfully stated  

You could do what i did and start off with Kawi Ninja 250.  that was the first bike i had ever riden, and it was a great first bike.  i rode it for about a year until i sold it and bought a GSXR1000.  it is quite a jump, but i have a lot more riding experience just from that little 250, than i did a year ago.  you have a lot of life left in you to get something small now and move up when you are comfortable.  no need to kill yourself now.  RIDE SAFE!!!!