aggressive cornering

Theres been alot of talk on here about throttle chopping and blipping and gear changes.And not to metion the riding section on this forum seems to be dead so here is a ? that im just curious on how other people would proceed with.
EXAMPLE= Your comming of the straight at 90mph entering a fast sweeping corner with a posted speed limit of 55mph.You are in the middle of what ever gear you have picked but realize you have come into the corner way to hard due to a bad line or whatever and are being pulled hard to the outside of the road. what would you do to correct this and bring you back to were you want to be?  

It's dead because folks usually like to talk about hardware instead of ridecraft.

Steady throttle or perhaps gentle roll off throttle and lean it more, up to and including the point where things start scraping. The natural survival instinct is to start braking or worst case, stand the bike up and go skidding off the outside.

http://sportrider.com/ride/146_0204_motorcycle_riding_tips/

The weak link in the chain is often the rider and motorcycles and tires these days are probably far more capable than the majority of riders on the streets.

After the fact, set up for turns (especially blind decreasing radii corners) better by using a more conservative entry speed. Hard to fix a blown corner after you've already started turn in.  

The short answer would be to get way out of the throttle, but don't shut it all the way off. Get way off the bike, counter steer the *** out of it, and keep your head and eyes in the direction you want to go, literally as far down the road as you can see. I can almost guarentee that the bike can do it, now it's up to you. If the bike can't do it, then it doesn't make much of a difference anyway. But 99 times out of 100, the bike can do more than you think it can, so always go for it. Never brake.  

How's it going man?  I'm not bragging about my riding but I have taken corners from 110-125 that are posted 55.  I only do it on roads that i'm familiar with but it's still a dangerous and sometimes stupid thing to do since I don't know what may be waiting for me around the corner.  

Thanks for the post about riding technique. Here's my take on your question. If you are in really hot and going wide, you obviously need to turn sharper. But this is no time to upset the chassis with strong braking, and or handlebar inputs, either of which could easily tuck the front. Get your eyes on your hoped for exit point and increase your lean with foot and knee pressure. Keeping the throttle cracked will stablize the chassis and also prevent loosing the front. A little rear brake will slow things without adding any loads to the front.  

I've ran (rode?) into this situation a couple times and on a couple of occasions i've backed off the throttle just a little to allow the engine to slow me a little and thus letting me tighten the curve, and on other occasions i've just trusted the bike and leaned harder. The bike has yet to betray my confidence.  

yes for experienced riders braking would be the last thing in mind you rather lean it harder or roll off the throttle gentle but bot too much in a situation like for example you took a tight curve at a little over 50 mph and you cleared it just to realize that wut was a tight curve going right suddenly changes direction and goes left like an "S" and ur still leaning going right wut would be the first thing to *** hhmmm happened to me couple of weeks ago i had a split scond to change position and almost hit the gutter made my tires was like an inch or inch and a half away from the gutter i mean i made it but but i had to fling the bike hard from leaning right to leaning left wich in my point of view is kinda dangerous is there any better way of dealing this kinda situation???  

Hey, *** happens. Given you made it out unscathed and wiser for it, you did the right thing.

There are riders out that that don't know how to make aggressive, rapid directional changes. You did and it saved you and your bike.

General rule would be to set entry speed early and more conservatively. Read Nick Ienatsch's the Pace.

http://www.ridehsta.com/html/safety.htm

If I'm riding on roads that I am not familiar with, I treat every blind corner as a decreasing radius turn and build in a safety reserve with entry speed.

Take a track based school or trackday and increase your performance/safety margin and reduce the need to push at or beyond your limit on the street.  

Let there be life. all good reads. I also dropped down a profile on the front tire from the factory 70 to a 65 and it cuts in much nicer and it tamed down alot of that unwanted front end lift under hard acceleration.  

is there anyway to escape those kinda situations if ur suddenly in a "S" curve and u went fast on the first changing direction could be a chalenge for some new riders that could be it they riding days are done   if they dont make the aggressive change of direction or they havnt learned how to fling the bike hard cause for me ive been riding for 15 yrs and sometomes it stills scares the sh@#% out of me but the only thing with riders that been riding for a while is that even in those kinda situation they dont loose their composure and still keep their presence of mind on wut to do, like for me i have my share of time riding but i still keep on learning like everyday i get on the freeway i tend to learn something new   its just that if regular riders sometimes has close calls with this kinda curves wut else for new guys who just got on their 600cc as their new bikes u got to admit theres alot of people out there whos learning on their 600cc.... is there a smoother way to deal with this situation other than an aggressive maneuver??? cause sometimes saying holyshi@#% as ur last resort just wont do it    

This has only happened to me once or twice (yeah right)
In less than a second, here's what happens
1.) I chop the throttle (sorry Bill!) Engine braking is your friend. RFB is right, you should leave the gas cracked open to keep everything stable, but you will not be thinking about that at the moment of truth. Chop it.
2.) For goodness sakes, do NOT look at the edge of the road you are about to go off. If you do, you are screwed. Look to the inside of the curve, where you want to be. That will help you to do the next step...
3.) COUNTERSTEER FOR JESUS. You are already praying at this point, so you might as well steer your bike to the glory of the Lord. See how much ground clearance you really have. Your bike will go all the way up on the edges of it's tires, some people ride like that all the time. Have faith. Since you are looking up the road to the inside of the curve, you won't notice the insane lean angle that you have going on at this point. STAY AWAY FROM THE BRAKES while you are all the way over.
Before you know it, you will be back into the center of the lane, standing your bike up, on your brakes, wondering how you made it.
Don't forget to thank the Lord for helping you through the corner.
If you do these things and lowside or loose the road, you can always just blame your tires... or sand.. or whatever you like.    

Many good words of wisdom have been given on bailing youreslf out of arriving hot. But you might want to also consider avoiding the problem to start with. I think the underlying issue here is lack of focus. Any racer will tell you that maintaining a high level of focus is a acquired and a required skill. I've lapped my share of tracks, and an increased ability to focus on the job at hand is a major benefit of all those wasted tires.  

I agree with most, with regard to the save... but really, the save should happen VERY seldom. If you find yourself in the wide-eyed "oh sh!t" moment often, your days are numbered.

Sometimes riding a given road fast is a long process of learning the road and it's given nuances. Where might there be gravel? What are the turns? What comes next? Where are intersections, etc. Learning to be smooth and fast is a process... and just becuase one might have years of experience, doesn't mean he can hammer any given road at any given time. The rider has to learn the course.

As stated above, 99.9% of the time, if riding on the street... you are WELL within the bike's capabilities. But, if you never learn what that margin REALLY is (classes/track time) you will never know where to draw the line. Riding on the open road should never come close to the absolute limit. Hard riding can still be fun, but it HAS to remain in a buffer so that the unexpected can still be dealt with. And that buffer is different for everybody. Don't get pulled into "ego" riding and get in over your head... That's when things get ugly...

When in doubt, lean more... everytime... (unless you got gravel, or really wet)  

I agree with you all. I think for the new rider, the worst time is just about when he is getting rather smooth in the operating mechanics of the bike. About that time you want to ride like the people you see cranking around turns, only, you have no experience. Its always just when you think youve about got the bike tamed that it bites a chunk out of your rear. If you dont know the road exceptionally well, relax. Ride accordingly to your knowledge of the road and relative skill level. Nothing more dangerous than someone who has no clue how much he doesnt know.  

Another good indicator is that fear that you feel...whether or not you choose to admit it.... when you KNOW you are riding faster than you should be. When you KNOW you are in over your head trying to keep up/ show off/ whatever... you get that tingling feeling... you know what I mean. Your Spidey Sense letting you know that you are about to eat the road.
Maybe it's just me. I get that weird fear and I have to obey it and back off a bit. It keeps me from riding relaxed.