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open_roads open_roads
User | Posts: 126 | Joined: 12/04
Posted: 05/22/06
11:56 AM

* F1 GP cars brake as late as 70 meters. Straight to corner

entrence.

* MotoGP bikes brake as late as 150-200 meters. Straight to

to corner entrence.

* from 180 to +200 mph.

* 39.37 inches = 1 meter

* 1 mile = 1.6 kilometers

**Concerning motorcycles: If the tires, suspension and frame

could be engineered to handle the stress; would (you) be

able to brake as late as 70 meters.

*** Yes, I know it is a physics/math problem. Use your

weight to solve if you feel like it.  

 
geof geof
User | Posts: 95 | Joined: 09/05
Posted: 05/22/06
12:54 PM

Don't even need to do the math... There are too many factors comparing an F1 car to a Moto GP bike. First, contact patch... FAR more surface area of rubber to the car. Downforce... These cars are made to stick to the ground... Could a bike be engineered to perform in this way?? Perhaps...  

 
TEvo TEvo
Enthusiast | Posts: 322 | Joined: 10/02
Posted: 05/22/06
01:36 PM

Definitely a physics problem.

GP bikes have similar carbon brakes as an F1 car but there is no way a single track vehicle with a skinny 120/130 front tire and 190/200 rear tire can match the traction provided by four wide tires on a multi-track vehicle.

GP bikes can exceed -1.2G of decelerative force during braking but an F1 car can generate -2.0G+. No comparison. Just like F1 lap times at tracks where both series run. GP bikes get blown away.  

 
Trevitt Trevitt
Administrator | Posts: 295 | Joined: 11/99
Posted: 05/25/06
11:01 AM

The biggest limiting factor for bikes is tipover-the rear wheel comes off the ground. When that happens depends on the position of the center of gravity, how high it is and how far behind the front wheel.

That is the first thing that would have to be addressed.

AT  

 
TEvo TEvo
Enthusiast | Posts: 322 | Joined: 10/02
Posted: 05/25/06
11:20 AM

Totally overlooked the obvious there.

Yeah, gotta do something about the tendency to endo under extreme braking.  

 

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