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Time for mladin to go?
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wireman
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Posted: 02/07/06
05:10 PM
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I think its time for Mat Mladin to move on. He is sucking the life out of the AMA. I'm at the point where I don't even want to turn it on anymore. Come on Mat, you proved your point. Go to the GP, give that a try. Or are you scared you will no longer be in the spotlight?
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jared26
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Posted: 02/07/06
05:28 PM
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Agreed Mladin should go somewhere, anywhere else. Not taking anything away from his skills, but jeez its getting pretty boring an AMA Superbike. I think he should contest WSB because he will never go to MotoGP as long as Suzuki's bike sucks. Obviously the Suzuki superbike is fast.
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TEvo
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Posted: 02/07/06
10:14 PM
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He's already been to GP. Early in his career, he had a season on the Cagiva.
I've read something to the effect that Mladin makes more money with the Yoshimura Superbike team in AMA than any rider in WSB- with the possible exception of the reigning WSB champion, Troy Corser.
So, combine the fact that he gets paid a couple (few?) million a year and has a seat with the best package (team/bike) in AMA last 5 years or so... can you blame the 33-year old if he wants to stick with the known instead of making a foray into the unknown?
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jared26
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Posted: 02/07/06
11:14 PM
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Rossi may go to F1, he has tested with Ferrari several times. Why can't Mladin try something else to? Regardless of money?
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jewfzr
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Posted: 02/07/06
11:27 PM
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Sucking the life out of the AMA? Did anyone get sick of seeing Michael Jordon or Wayne Gretzky? He's too good? I cannot believe I'm hearing this. If I were racing in the AMA I would relish the challenge of beating the best. Most people won't admit it but Mladin is the best superbike racer on the planet. No team would want him in moto-GP" he's too old" As far as moving to WSBK there is no reason. The field may be deeper but the top 5 ama guys are as good if not better than the top 5 WSBK guys.
OK.. there is obviously no way to prove any of this but there are no more moves up available to the guy" he does not want to go any other place anyway." At best WSBK is a move sideways.I think it will be really interesting this year with the Hayden brothers out there. Spies has shown some speed but Mladin has them all beat mentally with the exception of the Haydens.
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grickard
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Posted: 02/08/06
05:15 AM
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I have to agree with jewfzr, the last man to beat Mat was Nicky Hayden so let's wait and see what Roger or Tommy can do with the man. As for the wins too much argument, that's like people used to cry about Jeremy McGrath in the '90s. I don't understand people who can look at perfection in motion and not be satisfied. Do golfer's say Tiger Woods wins too much? Oh well, I guess some of them probabley do. 
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bigtyme
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Posted: 02/08/06
07:54 AM
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I think the difference between Jordan, Tiger, and Rossi is that they all won/win at the highest level possible. Jordan didn’t just win your local 3 on 3 at the Y, Tiger doesn't just win against a bunch of amateurs, and Rossi has one at every level of GP. It's completely his prerogative to stay in the AMA more power to him i like watching him race. If it were me however, I’m way too competitive and I’d want to see what i could do against the best in the world.
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jewfzr
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Posted: 02/08/06
08:03 AM
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I think the difference between Jordan, Tiger, and Rossi is that they all won/win at the highest level possible. Jordan didn’t just win your local 3 on 3 at the Y, Tiger doesn't just win against a bunch of amateurs, and Rossi has one at every level of GP. It's completely his prerogative to stay in the AMA more power to him i like watching him race. If it were me however, I’m way too competitive and I’d want to see what i could do against the best in the world.
Mladin is winning at the highest level of superbike racing, Jordon did'nt go to play in the European basketball league, nor did Gretzke. Mladins doing just fine here. Nicky is the last person to beat him but he was on the 750 back then.
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bigtyme
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Posted: 02/08/06
09:24 AM
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I think the difference between Jordan, Tiger, and Rossi is that they all won/win at the highest level possible. Jordan didn’t just win your local 3 on 3 at the Y, Tiger doesn't just win against a bunch of amateurs, and Rossi has one at every level of GP. It's completely his prerogative to stay in the AMA more power to him i like watching him race. If it were me however, I’m way too competitive and I’d want to see what i could do against the best in the world.
Mladin is winning at the highest level of superbike racing, Jordon did'nt go to play in the European basketball league, nor did Gretzke. Mladins doing just fine here. Nicky is the last person to beat him but he was on the 750 back then.
That would be because he was already playing against the best in the world. There was no need for him to go play in Europe. Remember the dream team? Same with Wayne, he didn’t have to go anywhere else to play against the best because the best came here and Canada. All I’m saying is if it were me I’d want to race against the best in the world, and if the best in the world all race overseas then that's where I’d go. Again, that's just me.
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Posted: 02/08/06
10:29 AM
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I would like to see him go to WSB or MotoGP, but ya know what? If he's happy doing what he's doing, why should he change? Also, I know a big appeal to racing AMA is that only involves travel in the states. He is a family man after all. It's a lot tougher on the family when you're in a different country every 2 weeks! Would you want to fly your wife and kid around like that? Maybe if he didn't have a kid, but once you do, you have to think about school and everything else that comes along with raising a kid.
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jewfzr
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Posted: 02/08/06
10:39 AM
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I think the difference between Jordan, Tiger, and Rossi is that they all won/win at the highest level possible. Jordan didn’t just win your local 3 on 3 at the Y, Tiger doesn't just win against a bunch of amateurs, and Rossi has one at every level of GP. It's completely his prerogative to stay in the AMA more power to him i like watching him race. If it were me however, I’m way too competitive and I’d want to see what i could do against the best in the world.
Mladin is winning at the highest level of superbike racing, Jordon did'nt go to play in the European basketball league, nor did Gretzke. Mladins doing just fine here. Nicky is the last person to beat him but he was on the 750 back then.
That would be because he was already playing against the best in the world. There was no need for him to go play in Europe. Remember the dream team? Same with Wayne, he didn’t have to go anywhere else to play against the best because the best came here and Canada. All I’m saying is if it were me I’d want to race against the best in the world, and if the best in the world all race overseas then that's where I’d go. Again, that's just me.
IMO mladin is already racing against the best superbike riders in the world. so no reason for him to leave.
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bigtyme
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Posted: 02/08/06
11:20 AM
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I think the difference between Jordan, Tiger, and Rossi is that they all won/win at the highest level possible. Jordan didn’t just win your local 3 on 3 at the Y, Tiger doesn't just win against a bunch of amateurs, and Rossi has one at every level of GP. It's completely his prerogative to stay in the AMA more power to him i like watching him race. If it were me however, I’m way too competitive and I’d want to see what i could do against the best in the world.
Mladin is winning at the highest level of superbike racing, Jordon did'nt go to play in the European basketball league, nor did Gretzke. Mladins doing just fine here. Nicky is the last person to beat him but he was on the 750 back then.
That would be because he was already playing against the best in the world. There was no need for him to go play in Europe. Remember the dream team? Same with Wayne, he didn’t have to go anywhere else to play against the best because the best came here and Canada. All I’m saying is if it were me I’d want to race against the best in the world, and if the best in the world all race overseas then that's where I’d go. Again, that's just me.
IMO mladin is already racing against the best superbike riders in the world. so no reason for him to leave.
Ok let’s say that he is already racing against the best super bike riders in the world. (Highly debatable) If you were to rank all the classes of motorcycle racing GP, World super bike, AMA, and whatever else there might be, how would you rank them as far as riders are concerned? If the AMA already had the best riders in the world, then why would Nicky go race in motogp? Why would people say that Biaggi went down to world super bike? Why would Neil Hodgson have to come race here after he fell off a bit in world super bike? If the best riders are here then why do so many want to race motogp? Now maybe I’m way off base here and I’m sure the other members on this board will call me out and I’d expect nothing less. I just think that from strictly a racing perspective if you pretty much have conquered one arena and you know there's another arena where the riders are arguably better why not see how you stack up? Now if he doesn’t want to travel or if he's got family issues etc, then by all means stay. I just believe that you don't get as good as he is without being super competitive which would make me want to go against the world. I definitely do not think he’s killing the AMA by staying however.
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jewfzr
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Posted: 02/08/06
11:42 AM
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I knew that would get things stirred up.lol... Hodgson did not fall off in wsbk, he went to a satellite team in GP and did'nt do well at all. He really wants to be the first to win BSB, Wsbk and Ama. No doubt moto gp is the premier class. I'm talking superbike and in superbike mladin has no peers. He has never gotten an offer to race Gp since his debacle in the early ninties. Now he's to old. The money is better, his family is here and the competition is at the very minimum on par with Wsbk. How many ama titles does this guy have to win before people recognize his superbike greatness?
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bigtyme
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Posted: 02/08/06
12:04 PM
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Hahaha touché! Correction noted on hodgson, that would be a nice trifecta if he could win in all three. I don't think it’s that people fail to realize his greatness i just think that since it’s not on the "world" stage that he goes under the radar.
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Posted: 02/08/06
02:07 PM
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He's a big fish in a little pond and he whines too much. he's just cutting laps and collecting paychecks. He's another Foggy.
If he had any sack, he'd move to a new challenge. There's always the next challenge. Whether it be WSB, MotoGP, or even a lateral move. When Rossi los the fire, he turned the racing world on it's ear and ditched Honda. I'm sure any of teh big four would be happy to match his Yoshi salary to run one of there bikes.
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