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2006 R6
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Posted: 02/24/06 08:37 PM
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Well,
I have lost faith in Sport Rider magazine. Andrew Trevitt tested the new 06 R6 and should offer up an appology like Yamaha is doing. Yamaha will buy back your new 06 R6 because it will not rev to the so called 17,500 RPM redline. Or maybe Trevitt had the only R6 that would actually rev that high. When I think about it he must have had the only one since he states " I try not to think about that too much every the R6's tach dips into the red for a flash before I click into sixth gear hurtling up the main straight at Qatar's Losail, Circuit, but its hard not to. Is there a reason for this? The tach isn't off that much.
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mikamike
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Posted: 02/24/06 09:27 PM
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I do recall a mag, (quite possibly Sport Rider, but I don't feel like digging it out), that mentioned how overly optimistic the R6 tach was when it came out with a 15,500 rpm redline. Like they said, you have a clip on the plug wire to co-ord the dyno and the engine rpm, and wow, it's incorrect. Yes, Yamaha was a little silly to play up the redline so much, but all the bikes are optimistic to some extent. Anyone buying it for the purpose only of the high redline is a bit of a knob anyway.
In the other thread regarding this, the Mazda recall issue was brought up about the RX-8 and previous Miata not making the claimed power, that is completely different. Less power means losing real races, a less optimistic tach might lose you some bench racing.
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Posted: 02/25/06 08:27 AM
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Was it a real test or a quick ride? I haven't recieved my mag in the mail yet. 
If it was just an introduction/quick ride, then all he has in front of him is the tach and speedo. And that is what would make the article. And you need to remember that most of these stories are writen, approved, sent to the presses over a month before we get the magazines. And I don't think it is worth it to 'stop the presses' just to shore up or explain the tach issue with the new R6.
Chris
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xeuse51
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Posted: 02/25/06 12:28 PM
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It was a first ride test done in Qatar. All the other mags were there to test the bike too. I think that they only got to do 5 laps each on the bike. Like before if you bought the bike for just the redline your an idiot. I would buy it for all of the other technology that the bike has to offer. Like the high and low speed damping, fly by wire throttle, and strait line geometry of the frame. I think it doesn't really matter how hight the bike revved. Look at the times yamaha posted at the Daytona tire test. They were the fastest in both SuperSport and Formula Xtreme. I think it is retarded for everyone to be getting so bent out of shape over this issue. If you didn't buy or not going to buy one then who cares. Why doesn't get to you so much when you don't even own one.
Oh yeah and Ti I have had a problem getting my mag on time as well.
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enp83
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Posted: 02/25/06 06:14 PM
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If the article is from the launch in Qatar than the test was a couple months ago. Yamaha just came out with the buyback thing a couple weeks ago. Plus it takes a while for them to put together a magazine, send it off to the printers and for it to get to your door or your local bookstore.
SR did point out last year (I don't recall reading it anywhere else either) that the 2005 ZX6RR couldn't spin all the way up to it's 16,500rpm redline (I think they said it topped out just below 15k).
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Posted: 02/25/06 06:50 PM
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I still have that issue... June 2005...
To Quote:
"We should note here that the stock tachometer is pretty inaccurate at very high rpm. What is displayed as 16,500 rpm on the tach is actually 14,750 rpm as read by our SuperFlow dyno, which requires a direct spark reading from the engine for proper power readings....."
The graph in the mag also only shows the 6RR upto about 14,750 rpm. No where in the article do they say or indicate that it stops reving at that point--rev limiter. I wonder how far into the red it goes? And what is it actually turning at that point?
Chris
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enp83
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Posted: 02/26/06 10:08 AM
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Hmm, interesting wording. I don't have that issue but specificly remember the cover and them saying something about the tach in the article. Hmm, maybe the ZX6RR did spin to 16,500, but waaay into it's redzone on the tach. I could see that from the wording of that paragraph. But, they also don't say specificly that they didn't hit the rev limiter or that the bike really did spin all the way up to 16,500. I'd guess they got more than 14,750, I've never ridden a bike that had a rev limiter EXACTLY where the little red line is on the tach, but I wonder if they got it to spin all the way up to 16,500 or just 15,500-16,000.
Not that it really matters. I was just trying to say if SR knew the tach was off they'd say so in the article because they've done it before.
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rlmesq
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Posted: 02/27/06 07:51 PM
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Who cares? A at Yamaha tech told me the only people who've tried to sell back their 2006 R6es are a couple of squids who spent $4K on aftermarket bling, then wadded their bikes within weeks of buying them. ("Uhhhh... no.")
Realistically, most of the people who buy a new R6 will be like those who just had to have a Hayabusa -- they'll never use fifty percent of the bike's potential, anyway. (I have only seen a couple of Bus drivers who knew how to ride.)
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