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cyclops
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Posted: 05/13/05 06:59 PM
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AMA Launches Call to Prevent a Federal Helmet Law Written by: American Motorcyclist Association Pickerington, OH – 5/9/2005 The AMA has learned that as soon as today (May 9, 2005) Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) will offer an amendment to the transportation reauthorization bill (SAFE-TEA) that will re-institute a federal helmet mandate. The amendment would penalize any state without a mandatory motorcycle helmet law for all riders by denying federal transportation and safety dollars to that state. Please write or call your Senator's office and tell them to vote "NO" on the Lautenberg helmet amendment!
States should be able to determine their respective helmet policy free from the threat of federal sanctions. Congress affirmed this as recently as 1995 in the National Highway System Act when they removed federal penalties placed on states without mandatory helmet laws. Now, Senator Lautenberg is attempting to reinstate this form of federal coercion upon the states. That is why the AMA is encouraging you to contact your Senator and urge them to prevent a federal helmet mandate on motorcyclists by voting "NO" to the Lautenberg amendment within the SAFE-TEA bill.
Make your call now...use the numbers provided below, or TAKE ACTION NOW to write your Member of Congress.
ALABAMA Richard Shelby (R) 202-224-5744 Jeff Sessions (R) 202-224-4124 ALASKA Lisa Murkowski (R) 202-224-6665 Ted Stevens (R) 202-224-3004 ARIZONA John McCain (R) 202-224-2235 John Kyl (R) 202-224-4521 ARKANSAS Blanche Lincoln (D) 202-224-4843 Mark Pryor (D) 202-224-2353 CALIFORNIA Diane Feinstein (D) 202-224-3841 Barbara Boxer (D) 202-224-3553 COLORADO Wayne Allard (R) 202-224-5941 Ken Salazar (D) 202-224-5852 CONNECTICUT Chris Dodd (D) 202-224-2823 Joseph Lieberman (D) 202-224-4041 DELAWARE Joe Biden (D) 202-224-5042 Thomas Carper (D) 202-224-2441 FLORIDA Bill Nelson (D) 202-224-5274 Mel Martinez (R) 202-224-3041 GEORGIA Saxby Chablis (R) 202-224-3521 Johnny Isakson (R) 202-224-3642 HAWAII Daniel Inouye (D) 202-224-3934 Daniel Akaka (D) 202-224-6361 IDAHO Larry Craig (R) 202-224-2752 Mike Crappo (R) 202-224-6142 ILLINOIS Richard Durbin (D) 202-224-2152 Barack Obama (D) 202-224-2854 INDIANA Richard Lugar (R) 202-224-4814 Evan Bayh (D) 202-224-5623 IOWA Charles Grassley (R) 202-224-3744 Tom Harkin (D) 202-224-3254 KANSAS Sam Brownback (R) 202-224-6521 Pat Roberts (R) 202-224-4774 KENTUCKY Mitch McConnell (R) 202-224-2541 Jim Bunning (R) 202-224-4343 LOUISIANA Mary Landrieu (D) 202-224-5824 David Vitter (R) 202-224-4623 MAINE Olympia Snowe (R) 202-224-5344 Susan Collins (R) 202-224-2523 MARYLAND Paul Sarbanes (D) 202-224-4524 Barbara Mikulski (D) 202-224-4654 MASSACHUSETTS Ed Kennedy (D) 202-224-4543 John Kerry (D) 202-224-2742 MICHIGAN Carl Levin (D) 202-224-6221 Debbie Stabenow (D) 202-224-4822 MINNESOTA Mark Dayton (D) 202-224-3244 Norm Coleman (R) 202-224-5641 MISSISSIPPI Thad Cochran (R) 202-224-5054 Trent Lott (R) 202-224-6253 MISSOURI Christopher Bond (R) 202-224-5721 Jim Talent (R) 202-224-6154 MONTANA Max Baucus (D) 202-224-2651 Conrad Burns (R) 202-224-2644 NEBRASKA Chuck Hagel (R) 202-224-4224 Ben Nelson (D) 202-224-6551 NEVADA Harry Reid (D) 202-224-3542 John Ensign (R) 202-224-6244 NEW HAMPSHIRE Judd Gregg (R) 202-224-3324 John Sununu (R) 202-224-2841 NEW JERSEY Jon Corzine (D) 202-224-4744 Frank Lautenberg (D) 202-224-3224 NEW MEXICO Peter Domenici (R) 202-224-6621 Jeff Bingaman (D) 202-224-5521 NEW YORK Charles Schumer (D) 202-224-6542 Hillary Clinton (D) 202-224-4451 NORTH CAROLINA Elizabeth Dole (R) 202-224-6342 Richard Burr (R) 202-224-3154 NORTH DAKOTA Kent Conrad (D) 202-224-2043 Byron Dorgan (D) 202-224-2551 OHIO Mike DeWine (R) 202-224-2315 George Voinovich (R) 202-224-3353 OKLAHOMA James Inhofe (R) 202-224-4721 Tom Coburn (R) 202-224-5754 OREGON Ron Wyden (D) 202-224-5244 Gordon Smith (R) 202-224-3753 PENNSYLVANIA Arlen Specter (R) 202-224-4254 Rick Santorum (R) 202-224-6324 RHODE ISLAND Jack Reed (D) 202-224-4642 Lincoln Chafee (R) 202-224-2921 SOUTH CAROLINA Lindsey Graham (R) 202-224-5972 Jim Demint (R) 202-2246121 SOUTH DAKOTA Tim Johnson (D) 202-224-5842 John Thune (R) 202-224-2321 TENNESSEE Bill Frist (R) 202-224-3344 Lamar Alexander (R) 202-224-4944 TEXAS Kay Bailey Hutchison (R) 202-224-5922 John Cornyn (R) 202-224-2934 UTAH Orrin Hatch (R) 202-224-5251 Robert Bennett (R) 202-224-5444 VERMONT Patrick Leahy (D) 202-224-4242 James Jeffords (I) 202-224-5141 VIRGINIA John Warner (R) 202-224-2023 George Allen (R) 202-224-4024 WASHINGTON Patty Murray (D) 202-224-2621 Maria Cantwell (D) 202-224-3441 WEST VIRGINIA Robert Byrd (D) 202-224-3954 John Rockefeller (D) 202-224-6472 WISCONSIN Herbert Kohl (D) 202-224-5653 Russ Feingold (D) 202-224-5323 WYOMING Craig Thomas (R) 202-224-6441 Michael Enzi (R) 202-224-3424
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zyglob
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Posted: 05/13/05 07:57 PM
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Actually, I don't think a national helmet law is such a bad thing. I mean c'mon, a helmet is such a small sacrifice to make, but can make a huge difference between life and death.
I used to be against helmet laws, but now I've seen the light.
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TEvo
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Posted: 05/13/05 08:07 PM
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FYI:
The Lautenberg Amendment was defeated 69 Nay to 28 Yea a couple days ago.
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z31maniac
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Posted: 05/13/05 08:56 PM
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Quote:
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The Lautenberg Amendment was defeated 69 Nay to 28 Yea a couple days ago.
That sucks, I did a story on Helmet Laws for my COmputer Assisted Reporting class last semester.
Louisiana and Colorado both saw motorcycle fatalities, increase by 100% after revoking their mandatory helmet laws.
That the AMA would encourage people to be against a mandatory helmet law is a perfect example of why I will never be a member.
If you have to wear a seatbelt you should have to wear a helmet, end of story period, no excuses for not wearing one.
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grickard
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Posted: 05/14/05 06:59 AM
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It's about the freedom to choose. No one can argue against the benefits of wearing a helmet, like wearing a seatbelt in your car, it is the smart thing to do. But you can't force people to do something against their will. Personaly I never ride without a helmet or drive without wearing my seatbelt because I value my life and do everything possible to protect it. But you can't make people be safe. You can show them how, but more than that is an intrusion of personal freedom of choice.
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zyglob
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Posted: 05/14/05 02:17 PM
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I was riding today and a HUGE bumble bee flew right into my face shield at 80mph. BONG!!! I said to myself boy I am smart to wear a full face helmet or that thing would have put out my eye. I wonder how many cruiser guys have crashed their "hogs" because they get a bee in the face?
I used to think that it's a "personal freedom" as well, but now I realize it's just stupid pride, and when they wind up in a ditch with a cracked skull and brain material oozing out, they will lose their pride real quick. It's such a small sacrifice to make--they should make it and stop whining!
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moonmanrj
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Posted: 05/15/05 06:45 AM
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The Lautenberg Amendment was defeated 69 Nay to 28 Yea a couple days ago.
That sucks, I did a story on Helmet Laws for my COmputer Assisted Reporting class last semester.
Louisiana and Colorado both saw motorcycle fatalities, increase by 100% after revoking their mandatory helmet laws.
That the AMA would encourage people to be against a mandatory helmet law is a perfect example of why I will never be a member.
If you have to wear a seatbelt you should have to wear a helmet, end of story period, no excuses for not wearing one.
When people start to tell others how and what they have to do, there is no longer a "democratic" system. Yes helmets are good (I always wear one) but who are you to tell someone else that they have to wear a helmet? You wouldn't like it if you were told to eat oatmeal every morning (by law) because it will lower you chance of a heart attack by 100%. I agree that helmets save lives, but let someone make their own choice. As far as the statistics go, the ratio of motorcycle deaths compared to car deaths is almost identical. People just get all upset because a motorcycleist is out in the elements, car drivers are self contained. Don't be so quick to make people do what you think is right in your eyes, that's not what the first amendment is all about. Freedom of choice is a powerful thing, and look at all the politicians who want to take it away from us.
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z31maniac
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Posted: 05/15/05 01:26 PM
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The Lautenberg Amendment was defeated 69 Nay to 28 Yea a couple days ago.
That sucks, I did a story on Helmet Laws for my COmputer Assisted Reporting class last semester.
Louisiana and Colorado both saw motorcycle fatalities, increase by 100% after revoking their mandatory helmet laws.
That the AMA would encourage people to be against a mandatory helmet law is a perfect example of why I will never be a member.
If you have to wear a seatbelt you should have to wear a helmet, end of story period, no excuses for not wearing one.
When people start to tell others how and what they have to do, there is no longer a "democratic" system. Yes helmets are good (I always wear one) but who are you to tell someone else that they have to wear a helmet? You wouldn't like it if you were told to eat oatmeal every morning (by law) because it will lower you chance of a heart attack by 100%. I agree that helmets save lives, but let someone make their own choice. As far as the statistics go, the ratio of motorcycle deaths compared to car deaths is almost identical. People just get all upset because a motorcycleist is out in the elements, car drivers are self contained. Don't be so quick to make people do what you think is right in your eyes, that's not what the first amendment is all about. Freedom of choice is a powerful thing, and look at all the politicians who want to take it away from us.
Alright, this is my main problem with these things.
In OK, approximately 35%-40% of cars on the road DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE, and even the ones that do carry state minimum liability.
So lets say you splat all over the road buy DON'T die. Who pays for the hundreds of thousands, or MILLIONS, of dollars in medical bills, when these people can't pay.
WE PAY!!! Through tax dollars and higher insurance premiums, which on Sportbikes are already beyond stupid.
So in THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, I say *** your right to be a dumbass, if everyone else but you is going to have to pay for your mistakes.
Same as fat people and smokers, THEY ARE the biggest reason health insurance is so high for people. Because the companies and hospitals have to make up for money lost.
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S6X
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Posted: 05/17/05 07:12 AM
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I do feel as though it is your right to choose to wear a helmet or not. Just like it's a woman's choice to have a child or have an abortion. But what I would like to see happen is for those of us who do ride with our helmets to get some kind of incentive, like lower insurance rates. But because of guys that don't and do get killed like someone I no who was doing 20mph and fell over and busted his head open on a curve, we have to pay for that.
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Posted: 05/17/05 11:47 AM
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I hate to say it but thats a good point. a woman has the right to choose what she does to "her" body. People are allowed to smoke tobacco dispite the facts that it causes death and along with that extremely high medical costs that get passed along. not to mention the fact that they haven't outlawed all fast food even though many people have serious health conditions and some fat people die. the world is full of idiots going around and doing things that seem reckless or harmfull to themselves. Any adult in free society should be able to make choices as long as they don't directly infringe on someone elses freedom. Then again theres a lot of things that i would like to prevent stupid people from doing but if i had my way i guess we'd have to call that a dictatorship. i won't complain about a helmet law but there are those rare occasions were i like to cruise around the neighborhood and feel the wind blowing through my hair. here in kansas i have the right to make that decision but if i drive 15 min north or east i don't (Missouri has a helmet law). I've even ridden a bicycle without a helmet and lived to tell about it. I think darwin had it right.
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zyglob
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Posted: 05/17/05 01:28 PM
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This is a tough dilemma. Some people would even say that riding a motorcycle in itself is too dangerous and seek to ban them. I think what we can all agree on is:
A) Insurance companies are ripping us off B) Hospitals are ripping us off C) Cops suck--they're never there when you REALLY need them like when someone swerves at you for being on a motorcycle. (I just had to throw that one in )
The fact that we have this weird insurance system where other people have to pay for other people's mistakes is uniquely American.
BTW, I recently saw a news magazine show about insurance companies taking premiums and investing them into the stock market--and if they lose they simply raise everyone's rates to make up for it! Talk about CORRUPT!!!
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Posted: 05/17/05 02:33 PM
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i have to ask. What did you think they did with your premiums. Just stick them in a mattress and pay out claims whenever nessisary. of course insurance companies invest money in the market. insurance compainies and other institutional investors make up a significan % of all assests in the market. And sure some times the market goes down but more often then not the market goes up and they make money off of it. Insurance compaies are all about gauging risk. Risk of their customers makeing claims and the risk of their investments. I think your rant (at least with regards to ins. *** is highly unnessisary. I should know I do accounting for two smallish mutual funds who's exclusive subscribers are insurance compaines. total assets of about $340,000,000. its nothing unusual.
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Posted: 05/20/05 10:01 AM
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Good point S6X. People should have the right to choose whether to wear a helmet or not, but give the riders who do wear a helmet some incentive. Lower insurance rates would be great but people would abuse it, unfortunately, to get the lower rate. American's, aren't we great!
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zebug32
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Posted: 05/25/05 10:27 AM
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First I always wear my helmet, and think anyone who doesn't is stupid. However it is their choice. I think that if the state is going to make a law that says you need to wear a helmet to protect you, then what about the laws that protect the rest of you? What good is a helmet going to do if someone is out riding around in sandals, shorts and shirtless? Ok, so their brain is intact, but the rest of their body isn't. It is a lame half @$$ attempt at keeping people protected, and if they are going to do it, they need to do it right, and better. Which then infringes upon our rights, and tells us that we have a lack of better judgement. I always wear my full face helmet, and with all the bugs and rocks that hit it, couldn't see not wearing it. I do think that not wearing a helmet, or the little tiny brain buckets, are just a way that someone is trying to act cool, and be macho.
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Posted: 05/25/05 11:05 AM
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Agreed.
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